do we really need better speed?

chronomage11 · Post by **chronomage11** » Mon Dec 24, 2001 8:50 pm

Personally, I think DreamSNES is the best thing ever to happen to the Dreamcast, except for Phantasy Star Online, so why is everyone griping about the speed? I think it plays really good for no money, just plain freeware. You can take this software, which is VERY good (thank you, Marcus Comstedt!), or you can go out and buy a SNES with about 500 games for $2000. Your choice, but I really don't care how it runs...It's just friggin awesome. CHRONO TRIGGER RULES!!!!!!!

Tails Prower · Post by **Tails Prower** » Mon Dec 24, 2001 11:01 pm

ZacMc · Post by **ZacMc** » Tue Dec 25, 2001 12:07 am

I think it plays really good for no money, just plain freeware.

I agree. I'm sure the coders could have sold it as a commercial product and made some$$$. But they didn't they gave it away for free

And some people forget that its faster with speed/sound turned off

??

Right Ness Shady?

Zac

hokage alpha · Post by **hokage alpha** » Tue Dec 25, 2001 12:28 am

Hey, even with the sound turned on, it's pretty fast. Not that 100% speed wouldn't be nice, but hey, as people keep pointing out, it runs that fast with the sound off. And even if it didn't, it's free and it's fun, and who are we to complain about something like that?

Mr._Chips · Post by **Mr._Chips** » Tue Dec 25, 2001 2:03 am

I think it'd be good to see at lest 95% speed, but hey, that may be just wishful thinking. You've got a point there that it runs just fine with or w/o sound...but instead of disabling the sound completely, couldn't they develop a way to decrease the sound quality (eg. 22050Hz)?

SuperFly · Post by **SuperFly** » Tue Dec 25, 2001 3:39 pm

I HAVE THE NEED FOR SPEED.... I WANNA PLAY DBZ games with better speed.

Tails Prower · Post by **Tails Prower** » Tue Dec 25, 2001 10:53 pm

Yea i know, i gotta stop turning the speed off or i wont be able to play super metroid lol.

katraqueyous · Post by **katraqueyous** » Wed Dec 26, 2001 11:02 pm

Well, today I went to my local game store and played my emu there. Peoples reactions was crazy!

"whoa, how you playing super nintendo dreamcast?"
"why is it so slow? If its on dreamcast it should be perfect!"
"hey, look the disc isnt spinning. Maybe thats why its so slow." (the dreamcast had a clear cover)
"Id rather play on a real snes...why you playing this? Its the next generation of video games!!!"

Im happy DreamSNES is a success. I think they tried very hard and accomplished. Im just now waiting for the next version...

Roam · Post by **Roam** » Thu Dec 27, 2001 8:19 pm

I doubt they'd make much money on it if they decided to market it.. as freeware it is great but as a commercial product it isnt. And speed isnt SOO much the issue with me, rather, I want my games to run SMOOTH, and full speed (frameskip is automatic in DreamSnes, but from what it looks like, it runs at about 5-10 skipped frames in each game.., it would be great if by the next release the frameskip would be 4 or less along with good speed...). The point Im trying to make is, well, YES, you can have a lot of fun with the DreamSnes now, speed issues and all, but it is most definately NOT a replacement for the original... not yet anyway..

Tails Prower · Post by **Tails Prower** » Thu Dec 27, 2001 8:26 pm

Its a replacement enough for me, no worrying about losing the cartridges, its all on one disk, and yes, im willing to give up sound, i have VOLUMES of video game music, everything from Earthbound to Sonic Adventure 2 (vocal AND music Soundtrack) so hey, no big deal.

SuperFly · Post by **SuperFly** » Thu Dec 27, 2001 11:25 pm

Games get boring without sound. whats sintendo all about? does that have better speed than dreamsnes?

SurXes · Post by **SurXes** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 7:32 am

i agree

DuffMan · Post by **DuffMan** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 11:42 am

People complain about Speed because it makes some games unplayable, Like Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter, you have to have full speed for those games.

Tails Prower · Post by **Tails Prower** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 11:58 am

If you want fullspeed on your DC, wait for 1.0 of DSNES, if you really want fullspeed now, go get ZSNES. problem solved.

Mr._Chips · Post by **Mr._Chips** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 4:29 pm

hey tails power, you reminded me of a question thats been bothering me...
Why was Snes9x chosen as the emu of choice (to port to DC as dreamSNES), when the best PC-emu out there is obviosly ZSNES?

ZSNES is multi-platform (DOS and win9x), full-speed, hardly any glitches, tons of options, and every rom seems to work perfectly on it. So why Snes9x, the buggy second-fiddle?

SuperFly · Post by **SuperFly** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 5:08 pm

where can i find znes?

Bad_CRC · Post by **Bad_CRC** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 5:54 pm

zsnes is coded in asm

Gmc · Post by **Gmc** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 4:26 am

SuperFly wrote: where can i find znes?

http://www.zsnes.com

Snes9x was chosen to be ported because its coded in C, unlike Zsnes which is Coded in ASM, so it cannot be ported to DC, its a shame because it plays 100% speed, compatiblity etc on the PC.

Mr._Chips · Post by **Mr._Chips** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 12:46 am

Thanks GMC + Bad_CRC for the info.
Your right, it is a shame...but we should be thankful for snes9x then. I am so psyched about version 1.0!!

katraqueyous · Post by **katraqueyous** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 1:17 pm

Yeah, games to get boring with sound. But Im worried about emus breaking my dc though...oh well, its worth it!

.....not really.

do we really need better speed?

do we really need better speed?

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